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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:38:00 -
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Amonios Zula wrote:Quick question while on this subject. Can a single escort with a pair of stasis webs sling a freighter to warp through the bumps ?
Probably not. Once the bumping starts, webbing into warp is far less effective.
A single escort can easily web you into warp before the first bump lands, though. I'd go with 3 or 4 webs though.
If you're dual boxing the escort and Freighter, you can use the time that the Freighter is cloaked to manually fly the escort within range. Just takes a little practice to be able to orient yourself to using the Freighter's overview and screen to guide your escort's motions. Or just press the easy button and buy a Rapier, Huginn, or Hyena. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:31:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Bumping is an allowed game mechanic. Even so I would be infuriated if I were forced to sit there for an hour without being able to log off. At least they finally got around to putting you out of your misery.
Nothing can stop you from logging off. Or Ejecting. Or Self Destructing. Except yourself. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.10 04:42:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:My understanding is that, even if safe logoff is unavailable and the emergency warp fails, the ship will still vanish 15 minutes after logoff. So as long as the DPS to kill the freighter doesn't arrive before that 15 minutes is up, the freighter would survive.
Or is there something I'm missing ?
The ship will vanish 15 minutes after the last person has shot it or 60 seconds after logging off whichever comes last. Safe logoff is for when you're already safe and you want to make sure nobody comes and shoots you in the 60 seconds that you normally spend in space after logging off, so it lets you keep in control until your ship disappears.
If you notice, I didn't say anything about being able to safely logoff. Just that nothing can stop you from logging off (hit the big red X at the top right of the window). EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:39:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:yes but a pair of ships coudl do it.. by counter bumping the machariel to give the freighter some needed seconds. Not guaranteed, but better than nothing.
Sure, a pair of ships could probably do it. But they were asking about what a single escort could do. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.11 05:57:00 -
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Berasus wrote:Would webbing the machariel achieve anything. Grab any old cheap cruiser from the lcal station' something like a celestis with 5 mid slots. Fit as many Webber's as you can and when the machariel finishes a bump stack 5 Webber's on it and just shut down its ability to bump again. You'd have until concord arrived to get the freighter into warp. Worst case concord already being there when the gank ships arrive will make the time the gank ships have to do their job a lot shorter?
Might help, sure.
Once CONCORD is on field, if your freighter isn't gone, they'd get back into the bumping rhythm and draw off the CONCORD spawn before ganking you. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.12 05:58:00 -
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Wesley Otsdarva wrote:I'd say this would fall under harassment in terms of bumping. With multiple attempts to leave and even to log off over the course of an hour while they just kept harassing the freighter.
And, per CCP, you'd be wrong.
OP made no attempt to log off, or he'd have succeeded in doing so. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Posted - 2014.01.12 07:48:00 -
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Christian Lionbate wrote: "persistent targeting of a player with bumping by following them around after they have made an effort to move on to another location can be classified as harassment"
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2536157#post2536157
GM Karidor wrote:Runeme Shilter wrote:GM Karidor wrote:However, persistent targeting of a player with bumping by following them around after they have made an effort to move on to another location can be classified as harassment, and this will be judged on a case by case basis. Does "move to another location" mean another Ice-Asteroid? Or another belt? Another system? RS While it will involve inconvenience, we will have to see that one actively tried evasion before we consider someone being followed around and harassed. Merely changing belts in the same system or moving a few thousand meters to another asteroid would not qualify in this regard. Ideally you would move to other systems and more than just one or two jumps to avoid being found again quickly, requiring some effort to locate you again (i.e. through locator agents).
Italics for the important bit you missed. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.12 08:18:00 -
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Christian Lionbate wrote:Freighter was trying to move to another location, persistent bumping was preventing that. Do try to keep up.
Let's see if you can get it with fewer words to distract you:
GM Karidor wrote:moving a few thousand meters ... would not qualify in this regard. Ideally you would move to other systems and more than just one or two jumps to avoid being found again quickly, EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2014.01.12 09:37:00 -
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Christian Lionbate wrote:The freighter could not move because of bumping.
Nor can a miner while he's being bumped. What's your point?
Quote:The guidance makes clear that some bumping is acceptable but excessive or repeated bumping is not (I even underlined the word you seem to have missed).
The guidance makes it clear that stalking someone across the face of EVE is against the rules. Not that bumping someone twice is a problem.
Quote:Using game mechanics to hold the freighter for that amount of time to has be wrong.
So find where CCP shows any indication that they agree with you.
If the Freighter pilot wants to get away, they're free to log off, self destruct, or eject. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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